Comments on: Religion, politics and my ticket to Hell http://youknowwhatpart.com/2005/04/14/religion-politics-and-my-ticket-to-hell/ Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:28:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ryan http://youknowwhatpart.com/2005/04/14/religion-politics-and-my-ticket-to-hell/#comment-22 Ryan Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:34:52 +0000 http://youknowwhatpart.com/wp/?p=391#comment-22 It's hardly dishonest, but I will yield to it being sensational. But just as my equation of belief=murder isn't sound, neither is the assertion that just because some kid hears that somewhere, someone believes that an invisible man created everything over a week, that kid is not being "deprived" of their education. This argument on one side that <em>any</em> education point that remotely involves a topic that could be a relatable to believers is suddenly a systemic deprivation of all children's education is ludicrous. We force-feed kids "diversity", but then turn around and limit what kinds of diversity they allowed to learn about. Ignoring a large portion of the populace-or, as joe put it, talking down to the masses-is exactly what is being done, just not by me. It’s hardly dishonest, but I will yield to it being sensational. But just as my equation of belief=murder isn’t sound, neither is the assertion that just because some kid hears that somewhere, someone believes that an invisible man created everything over a week, that kid is not being “deprived” of their education. This argument on one side that any education point that remotely involves a topic that could be a relatable to believers is suddenly a systemic deprivation of all children’s education is ludicrous. We force-feed kids “diversity”, but then turn around and limit what kinds of diversity they allowed to learn about.

Ignoring a large portion of the populace-or, as joe put it, talking down to the masses-is exactly what is being done, just not by me.

]]> By: joe mullins http://youknowwhatpart.com/2005/04/14/religion-politics-and-my-ticket-to-hell/#comment-21 joe mullins Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:52:46 +0000 http://youknowwhatpart.com/wp/?p=391#comment-21 Wow, that's pretty dishonest, or simply a gross mis-reading of the quote. "That's right, kiddies. Holding different beliefs about the origin of life is equivalent to murdering over 6 million people. I'll simplify that. Belief = murder." That's not what he said at all. He simply equates people trying to prevent education about evolution due to religious motivation to revisionist historians trying to cover up the holocaust. While it's not the best of arguments, it's hardly a Belief = Murder equation. It's pretty slimy to take "individuals trying to suppress education about evolution" and turn them into only "people holding different beliefs about the origin of life" and turning "revisionist historians denying the holocaust" into the Nazi's themselves. While I appreciate a cooler head prevailing in a time filled with chicken littles, this is hardly the way to talk down the masses. Wow, that’s pretty dishonest, or simply a gross mis-reading of the quote.

“That’s right, kiddies. Holding different beliefs about the origin of life is equivalent to murdering over 6 million people. I’ll simplify that. Belief = murder.”

That’s not what he said at all. He simply equates people trying to prevent education about evolution due to religious motivation to revisionist historians trying to cover up the holocaust. While it’s not the best of arguments, it’s hardly a Belief = Murder equation.

It’s pretty slimy to take “individuals trying to suppress education about evolution” and turn them into only “people holding different beliefs about the origin of life” and turning “revisionist historians denying the holocaust” into the Nazi’s themselves.

While I appreciate a cooler head prevailing in a time filled with chicken littles, this is hardly the way to talk down the masses.

]]> By: Ryan http://youknowwhatpart.com/2005/04/14/religion-politics-and-my-ticket-to-hell/#comment-20 Ryan Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:47:24 +0000 http://youknowwhatpart.com/wp/?p=391#comment-20 Amen! (sorry, it was there.) This crap about the Founding Fathers and their supposed religiousity is getting old, even for a country as young as ours. But, I guess we are the eventual product of a culture that, for one reason or another, thought that Europe in the 16th and 17th century was too progressive. Leaving the cool kids back in Europe didn't go a lot for cultural development in the colonies. It always reminds me of Douglas Adams and the bit about the culture that convinced 1/3 of their population, the useless third (telephone sanitizers, marketing specialists, etc..), to flee the planet because it was doomed by a cosmic goat. I really don't have a point to tie it all together, but it seems connected. Ah well, we'll get to hear this all again in our senior years when the boy they send around to unhook us is raving about the newest push to ban some form of transhumanism. "God hates Augments!" Amen! (sorry, it was there.) This crap about the Founding Fathers and their supposed religiousity is getting old, even for a country as young as ours. But, I guess we are the eventual product of a culture that, for one reason or another, thought that Europe in the 16th and 17th century was too progressive. Leaving the cool kids back in Europe didn’t go a lot for cultural development in the colonies.

It always reminds me of Douglas Adams and the bit about the culture that convinced 1/3 of their population, the useless third (telephone sanitizers, marketing specialists, etc..), to flee the planet because it was doomed by a cosmic goat. I really don’t have a point to tie it all together, but it seems connected.

Ah well, we’ll get to hear this all again in our senior years when the boy they send around to unhook us is raving about the newest push to ban some form of transhumanism. “God hates Augments!”

]]> By: ann arbor is overrated http://youknowwhatpart.com/2005/04/14/religion-politics-and-my-ticket-to-hell/#comment-19 ann arbor is overrated Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:11:31 +0000 http://youknowwhatpart.com/wp/?p=391#comment-19 wow, thank you so much. I'm so sick of hearing about how the U.S. is becoming a theocracy. You'd think that all U.S. laws were based on Jeffersonian deism and no one has ever tried to legislate religion at every point in our history except now. wow, thank you so much. I’m so sick of hearing about how the U.S. is becoming a theocracy. You’d think that all U.S. laws were based on Jeffersonian deism and no one has ever tried to legislate religion at every point in our history except now.

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